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Reimagining Justice

Oct 26, 2020

In this episode no. 45 I speak with President of the American Bar Association and Partner, Snell & Wilcox, Ms Patrica Lee Refo.

This interview covers:

  • The ABA’s mission, including racial equity and other practical strategies
  • The current focus on unmet legal needs due to the pandemic
  • The impact of the pandemic on the...


Oct 12, 2020

In this episode no. 44 I interview Lucy Ricca, Executive Director at Office of Legal Services Innovation, Utah Supreme Court.

Lucy and I discuss what is arguably the most significant changes to the practice of law in the US in approximately 100 years including reducing economic restrictions around who can practice law...